SKELTON, George
Private 23481
9th Loyal North Lancashire.
Killed in Action 14th of July 1916.
NB. We have concluded that the George Skilton whose name also appears on the Beechholme WW1 Roll of Honour is one and the same person as the above. This is because “ Soldiers Died Great War” has George Skelton as above being formerly 25971 Bedfordshire and there appears to be no record of any George Skilton or Skelton being killed from the Bedfordshire regiment.
UPDATE MAY 2021: We have received a detailed account related to George's likely regiment from Roger M. who has been undertaking research on the 9th Battalion of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. Roger, I have tried to respond to say thanks for all the detailed information, however my email rejects each time. Nevertheless I have added your comments at the end of George's story below.
George Charles Skelton was baptised on the 13th of September 1896 at St Thomas, Kensal Town. He was the oldest surviving son of Charles and Florence or Flora nee Rasell. George’s father was employed as a coal porter. His mother had been born in New York. The couple had nine children together, three of whom died; there were two sets of twins.
On the 1901 census the family are living at 245, Kensal Road. George is aged five. The house is shared with two other families, one of whom was George’s uncle who was widowed with two young children. George’s family occupied two rooms in the house. Charles Booth describes Kensal Road thus :- “ A long road with mixed shops and dwellings, some fairly comfortable, some poor, others very poor. It is a working class area - men in the building trade, women wash and support the men. No prostitution, but loose relations. Is not vicious only poor and noisy. The beer house on the south side is particularly noisy. Kensal Road should be coloured purple on the map. Kensal Town is situated on the south side of the Grand Junction Canal.”
Purple on the poverty map meant that the street was a mixture of people.
George’s father died in the July quarter of 1901. On the 1911 census George and his younger brother Frederick are both resident in Beechholme. George having been admitted to the school on the 22nd of November that same year.
His next of kin was given as his mother of 245, Kensal Road.
George was discharged to the care of his mother on the 31st of December 1903 but then readmitted to the school on the 16th of May 1905.His mother is still alive and employed as a servant in Wandsworth along with one of George’s older sisters. There are other children with the surname Skelton who are in Beechholme on the 1911 census but they are likely to be from a different family.
George enlisted in Hertford which also lends more credence to him being in the Bedfordshire regiment first. Sadly there are no surviving service records for him and there is no qualifying or entry dates on his medal index card. As he was only entitled to the Victory and Bristish War medals he would have enlisted in 1916 and could have been conscripted as conscription commenced in January 1916 and initially targeted all single men between the ages of 18 and 41.
The 9th Loyal North Lancashires were part of Kitchener’s 3rd New Army and they joined the 74th Brigade in the 24th Division. The regiment proceeded to France on the 26th of September 1915 landing at Boulogne. Their first action was in defence of the German attack on Vimy Ridge in May 1916. From there they moved to the Somme, joining the battle just after the main attack and then, with the 75th Brigade, making a costly attack near Thiepval on the 3rd of July.
It is likely that George was transferred from the Bedfordshire regiment to the Loyal North Lancashires after large losses of men and prior to landing in France. There is evidence on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website that other men had been transferred from the Bedfordshire regiment to the Loyal North Lancashires.
The 7th of July 1916 saw huge losses to the Loyal North Lancashire regiment whilst fighting in the trenches of the Somme.
The war diary entries for the dates around the given date of George’s death reveal very little and are shown below :-
10/7/16. “ The battalion was relieved in the trenches by the 3rd battalion Worcester regiment”
12/7/16 “ The battalion moved by route march to SENLIS a distance of about three miles and joined up with the 13th Cheshire regiment as a composite battalion.”
13/7/16 “ The composite battalion moved to TARA HILL east of ALBERT and bivouaced.”
There is no entry for the 14th of July.
15/7 “ The battalion in conjunction with 13th Cheshire regiment relieved the 2nd Wiltshire regiment in the trenches at LA BOISELLE”
16/7 2.00am. In trenches. “ An attack was made on the enemy trenches N.E of OVILLERS which was ultimately successful.”
Casualties- Other Ranks killed 2
Other Ranks wounded 2
Other Ranks missing 2.
16/7 8.00pm “ The battalion was relieved in trenches by the 6th Royal Warwickshire and proceeded to huts at BOUZINCOURT”
There being no entry for the 14th of July when George was killed in action may mean that a mistake was made with the date of his death and he was actually killed on the 16th of July. His mother was the sole legatee.
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GRAVE REF :- Thiepval Memorial Pier and Face 11A.
NOTE: George’s brother Frederick served with the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve during the war and survived.
DETAILED RESEARCH NOTES supplied by Richard M. in May 2021:
I hope you will not mind contacting you with some information on one of the soldiers on your excellent website about the Beechholme War Memorial.
I am currently undertaking research on the 9th Battalion of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment - hence my interest in 23481 Pte George Skelton. As you mention in the piece on him, there is a connection between the Bedfordshire Regiment and the 9th Loyals which has long puzzled me, but I have now had the time to sort out.
Although Private Skelton has no service record, there are several ex Bedford men with similar numbers (23435 Savill, 23452 Allen, 23458 Locking, 23461 Hebbs, 23468 Coote,) that do, all of whom were casualties with the 9th Loyals. From their records, the Loyals diary, the Loyals BWM and Victory medal rolls, and a study of original Loyals men, what seems to have happened to Private Skelton and his comrades, is this –
40 men of the Bedfords (31 from 4th Battalion, including Private Skelton and 9 from the 3rd battalion) were transferred to the 3rd Battalion of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment in Felixstoweon the 26th June 1916.
- They all were given Loyals numbers between 23424 and 23500 (not all the numbers were used on the BWM/Vic roll).
- 5 of these men (the records mentioned above) had attested between 22 November and 12 December 1915 and had been mobilised on the 21 January 1916. Attestation dates differ but all have the same mobilisation date. I am inferring that similar dates are applicable to Private Skelton.
- A draft was sent from the from the 3rd L N Lancs to France which embarked on 1st July 1916 and the men in that draft were posted to the 9th Battalion L N Lancs. (I have not determined yet whether this draft was just these 40 men or whether they were part of a larger draft)
- On arrival at Etaples, they joined the 25th Infantry Base Depot: all 9th battalion reinforcements come from here.
- There is a curious hiatus of a week while this draft do not actually leave 25 I.B.D. to join the 9th battalion even though they have been posted to the 9th a week earlier.
So far so good but this is where things get a bit complicated!
As you can see from the attached record from Pte Coote, on the 8th July he was attached to the 20th Manchester Regiment.
- So were the other 4 ex-Bedford men whose records I have.
- In addition, two men who were original members of the 9th Battalion, who had been wounded and were also at 25 I.B.D. at the same time, were attached to the 20th Manchesters on the same date.
- It would appear therefore that the draft for the 9th L N Lancs was held at the 25th I.B.D. presumably while the powers that be were getting an idea of casualties and where the men would be most needed.
- 20th Manchesters had attacked on the 1st July and needed reinforcements (310 Other Rank Casualties just on 1 July).
- The 9th L N Lancs had attacked on the 7th but were still in the line on the 8th and no one could have had a clear idea what their casualties were. They were attached to a different division and their casualties ended up at the field ambulances of 3 different divisions. When they did come out their casualties were so high that they had to be amalgamated with the 13th Cheshires but by then though, the draft that included Pte Skelton had gone to reinforce 20th Manchesters.
- 20th Manchesters War Diary records on the 9th July 1916 “11.45 p.m. Draft of 382 Other Ranks arrived from base consisting of men of the following regiments: Royal Fusiliers, East Surrey’s, East Lancs, Loyal North Lancs and Manchesters”. Another 67 from Manchesters, E Lancs and Loyals arrived on the 10th.
It seems likely that Pte Skelton and his ex-Bedford colleagues were in one of these two drafts. It would appear that, even though they had been posted to the 9th L N Lancs that they never got there or served with that battalion.
By way of confirmation of that assumption, if you look at the dates of death of the 5 ex-Bedfords and correlate them with the actions of 20th Manchester, they do suddenly make sense.
- 3 are killed on 3 September when 20th Manchester assaulted Ginchy Village.
- 1 is killed during a relief on the evening of the 30th August
- Crucially for the story of Private Skelton, Private Coote and one of the ex 9 Battalion men were posted missing on the 14th July 1916.
- The appendix to the 20th Manchester’s War Diary for the 14th reads:
“At 2.30 a.m. the battalion moved from CITADEL via 71 NORTH -FRICOURT – and MAMETZ to FRITZ TRENCH where the battalion was in brigade reserve during the attack of the 20th brigade on the German second line and the attack of the 22nd brigade on BAZENTIN LE GRAND WOOD and BAZENTIN LE PETIT VILLAGE. The battalion remained in this trench until 8 a.m. when it moved forward and occupied WHITE TRENCH. Hostile shelling by H.E. and TEAR shells was very severe. Goggles were worn during the day. During the day C and D companies were sent forward to support 2nd Royal Irish Reg and 1st Royal Welsh Fusiliers.”
It would make sense that Pte Skelton died in this attack with 20th Manchesters rather than with the 9th Battalion Loyals who were out of the line and recorded literally nothing for the 14th July.
“Soldiers Died” does record 5 other 9th Battalion men KIA on this day. They have no service records, but they enlisted in Watford, Cheshunt, Luton, Hertford, Withersfield in Suffolk and Great Shelford in Cambridgeshire. The entire 9th battalion of the Loyals when it landed in September 1915, with 1 exception (from Yorkshire!), enlisted in Lancashire. I suggest that these 5 men, Pte Coote and Pte Skelton were all ex Bedfords who died with the 20th Manchester.
Interestingly, on the 30th July the draft to the Manchesters from the East Surreys left to go to the Queens regiment and all men who were from Irish regiments that had reinforced the battalion were transferred out to 2nd Royal Irish Reg. but the draft from the 9th L N Lancs appears to have remained with the 20th Manchesters: I have yet to find any evidence that any of this draft of ex Bedford men did serve with the 9th Loyals. There was a second draft of ex Bedfords (numbered in the low 26000’s) who would join 9 L N Lancs later some of whom also seem to have gone to 20th Manchesters and there may have been elements of a 3rd ex-Bedford draft as well. Still working on those though!
In conclusion, I think that this draft, including Private Skelton, probably most of a second, and some of a third draft, all men from your part of the world, really “belong” to the 20th Manchesters rather than 9th Loyals. I am hazy about the difference between a “posting” and an “Attachment”, but it does seem to me that these men, including Pte Skelton, did their service with 20th Manchesters and not 9th Loyals whatever unit they were technically supposed to be with.
Hope that makes sense!
Best regards
Roger M.
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